Ep 04 The Changing Tide of Ministry Structures

SHOW NOTES Episode 04

Title:  The Changing Tide of Ministry Structures

Publish Date: April 15, 2022

Jen leads the SHE-Team in exploring the question of how training for ministry needs to change to be more effective for the next generation, with a focus on how we see church leadership structures moving toward a bivocational and co-vocational emphasis. In part 2, we address the question, How is the church changing and how do we need to adjust our approach to ministry training as a result?

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Orpheus Chamber Orchestra

Michale Frost’s Blog, “Seminary Produced Visionary Leaders.”

Carey Nieuwhof’s Blog, “Why it’s Time to Rethink What it Means to Be Called to Ministry.”

The Holy Post Podcast, “The Embrace of Tyrants and the Despair of Pastors.”

Theme Song Credit

All-girl rock band, Fanny: “Play Like A Girl” by June & Jean Millington (2011) recorded Live at WFMU on Surface Noise with Joe McGasko on August 21, 2011.

“Play Like A Girl” by June & Jean Millington is licensed under an Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License that can be found here, Creative Commons Legal Code.

The Team

Kim Hu (MA, MDiv ‘23) is in full-time ministry where she works with young adults at her church while pursuing a Masters of Divinity degree at Missio Seminary. She loves making her husband Tim laugh, dreaming of what missions means, caring for her growing collection of house plants, and posting unsolicited reviews of Trader Joe’s products to her instagram.

Jennifer Johnson (MEd) serves as the Chief Communications Officer at Johnson University in Knoxville, TN. She blogs about faith, doubt, the church, and the idiosyncrasies of Christian culture and compiled some of this work into her book, See Jen Write: The Best of the Blog. Jen’s a wife, a stepmom of two young adults, a board member for Orchard Group and Christian Missionary Fellowship, an American Airlines Gold member, a reluctant dog owner, and a big fan of caffeine.

Kris Anne Swartley (MDiv) serves as Pastor of Worship and Administration at Doylestown Mennonite Church in southeast Pennsylvania. She is a wife, mom and musician; and her hobbies include caring for her two cats, feeding the neighborhood birds and drinking inordinate amounts of coffee.

Jayne Wilcox (MDiv, ThD) is a Lecturer in Religion and Theology at LaSalle University and an adjunct professor in World Christian History at Missio Seminary. She lives in Levittown, PA with her husband and their favorite furry four-legged friends, Rose and Lilibet. Her pride and joy are her two adult sons and an adorable daughter-in-law.


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